Re: Lintian based autorejects
On Tue, Nov 03 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 01:01:02PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
>>
>> when we do add such a lintian check to the blacklist, we also file serious
>> bugs against those packages in the archive; and aggressively work to either
>> fix the packages, or remove them from the archive.
>
> It is very unclear who ‘we’ is in this sentence. To me, the situation looks
> more like:
Sigh*. Why is it relevant who it is?
> when [they] do add such a lintian check to the blacklist, [you] file
> serious bugs against those packages in the archive; and [expect
> others to] aggressively work to either fix the packages, or [go
> through the long process that may allow to] remove them from the
> archive.
So. Given what the process being talked about is, we first
create policy via a consensus based process, and policy has these
directives. Policy tries not to create directives where tonns of
packages are insta-buggy.
Lintian checks are written for these directives, and over time,
people get to see if their packages are affected. Again, new policy
directives do not come in as must rules, so these have been in effect
for ages.
Finally, these violations of policy are added to the blacklist,
since these serious policy violations are adjudged too buggy for Debian
-- but this is after a looong period of time after people have known
that their packages are buggy.
Someone (perhaps me), now files these violations as bugs that
they are. In other words, after people ignore what lintian tells them
are policy violations, someone does a lot of research, verifies there
is a bug, and files reports.
> Do you understand why people are getting annoyed ?
They have a lot of bloody gall to be annoyed thatpeople file
bugs about serious policy violations that they have signed up to
follow, and neglected in their packages, and instead of thanking peple
who find out and point to these policy violations, they feel angry at
the bug reporter, instead of ashamed at how they neglect bugs in their
packages.
manoj
irritated
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