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Re: New source package formats now available

Le Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:47:04AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
> When someone (e.g. an NMUer) does edit an upstream file and builds the
> package then the source do not contain those changes while the binary
> will. That is clearly going to cause no end of pains.
> Building the source package and unpacking it should always result in
> the same source tree or fail to build in the first place. Simply
> ignoring changes is too dangerous.

Sorry Goswin, but I will be politically incorrect… Please do not take


I checked your Debian QA page and it does not seem that you are doing NMUs. On
the other hand, if you check my QA page, you will see that do regular uploads
quite frequently. Therefore, when I write that it is not convenient for quilt
users that dpkg suddenly attempts to take control of the patch management they
were taking care by themselves, and when you answer that it is a necessary
feature for people who do NMU, isn't there a strong discrepancy in the
discussion since I speak from experience and you don't?


As I already answered (too harshly) to Raphaël, I and many developers only
upload packages that were built in a clean chroot. Therefore, I think that your
statement about ignoring changes being “too dangerous” is a gross overstatement
that is not backed by facts.

By the way, I started recently (for reasons unrelated to this thread) to
document in README.Debian how to test the packages I maintain, to facilitate
uploads by people not familiar with the package if needed, as well as to inform
the users about what level of testing they should expect. I encourage other
maintainers—especially those concerned with helping “NMUers”—to do so.


Charles Plessy
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan

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