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Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

Anthony Towns wrote:
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:39:23AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:28:58PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
About freeze timing we think that DebConf should definitely not fall
into a freeze

We noticed that releases in the first quarter of the year
worked out quite well in the past like both Etch and Lenny. Taking these
into consideration we think it would be best to freeze in December.

We'll be consulting all key teams within Debian to see how their plans
and schedules can fit into a new timeline. Before the end of August we
hope to have finished this process of consultation and be able to
present the new plan to you.

Why not have a developer poll as to what month(s) would most suit
people for the freeze, rather than limiting it to "key teams"?

So, with August almost half-way over, I guess the release team's not
going to be doing much more to seek input from non-key teams/developers.

I still think it'd be interesting and useful to get broader input,
though. Something like a choice amongst the following questions by GR
might work:

  1. The Debian project recommends that the release team target
     December 2009 for squeeze's freeze, and work hard to avoid allowing
     the freeze to slip by more than a few weeks. The project notes this
     is approximately 10 months after lenny's release, and approximately
     18 months after lenny's freeze. The project acknowledges this may
     assist in synchronising Debian 6.0 and Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, may assist
     in setting up regular freezes every second December, and is intended
     to allow Debian 6.0 to be released prior to DebConf 2010.

Any thoughts? We could have such a vote over and done in about two weeks,
with the DPL's consent, and it'd seem a lot more inclusive and less
cabal-tastic than how things seem to be working atm...

Later Luk wrote that now December 2009 seems an unrealistic target, but he
would talk to other teams to discuss the freeze date/period before announcing

IMHO we should wait a formal decision of RMs before a GR.

Personally I don't think we should do a GR to recommend a freeze or release date.
We already used the DPL election to push a release, when it was *long* due, but
I don't think we should push a freeze.


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