Hello *, while reading the forwarded messages in the BTS, I am supporting Bill to continue maintaining "menu" since the "desktop" is hit by to many limitations. I have an Add-On to "menu" called "tdfvwm-menu" which is currently not updated since I have some problems here in France... <http://devel.debian.tamay-dogan.net/tdfvwm-menu/> However, I will continue updating my package AFTER release of Lenny... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant Am 2008-08-15 21:07:08, schrieb Daniel Dickinson: > > > Begin forwarded message: > > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:44:29 +0200 > From: Bill Allombert <Bill.Allombert@math.u-bordeaux1.fr> > To: debian-policy@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu > > > On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 01:08:40PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Therefore, I still feel that, despite it being a big mess, the > > > current situation is the best: > > > * the default menu contains only what is needed, and we are > > > still hunting down entries that are useless to make them not show up > > > by default; > > > * users wanting the Debian menu and its gazillions of entries > > > including window managers, terminal emulators and shell > > > interpreters can enable it easily in the menu editor; > > > * those really wanting only the Debian menu can replace > > > gnome-applications.menu by debian-menu.menu. > > > > > > If you want this to change, you need to seriously think about > > > evolutions to both XDG and Debian menu systems, to convince fd.o > > > and the Debian menu maintainer to implement them > > > > Actually, no, if you want this to change, you have only to do nothing. > > > > People (many of them MOTUs from Ubuntu in my experience) are filing > > lots of requestes for random packages to have .desktop files added to > > them, so they appear in the gnome menu. The criteria seems to be "a > > program that $RANDOM_USER would like to have on the menu and files a > > bug about || that $RANDOM_UPSTREAM ships a desktop file for, for > > whatever reason". > > > > So, after sufficient time, the gnome menu will contain a random > > assortment of the menu items that also appear in the debian menu. Not > > a well-chosen and consistent assortment, but the kind of random > > assortment that you get when you ignore policy and go off on your own > > way. > > I agree with you, but I am only the 'Debian menu maintainer' and I do > not have time or interest to maintain the .desktop files in Debian. > Instead people (not you) ask me transparently to stop maintaining menu > and maintain the .desktop files instead, but no one is willing to do > the work. (And of course .desktop is about 10% of the XDG spec). > > Cheers, > -- > Bill. <ballombe@debian.org> > > Imagine a large red swirl here. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-REQUEST@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmaster@lists.debian.org > > > > -- > And that's my crabbing done for the day. Got it out of the way early, > now I have the rest of the afternoon to sniff fragrant tea-roses or > strangle cute bunnies or something. -- Michael Devore > GnuPG Key Fingerprint 86 F5 81 A5 D4 2E 1F 1C http://gnupg.org > No more sea shells: Daniel's Weblog http://cshore.wordpress.com > > > > ------------------------ END OF REPLIED MESSAGE ------------------------ -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ##################### Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/9351947 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com)
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