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Re: Bug#479440: ITP: funpidgin -- A pidgin fork



On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 09:10:07AM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Am Montag, den 05.05.2008, 01:19 -0400 schrieb Kevin Mark:
> > On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 11:28:40PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 23:24 +0300, Mohammed Sameer wrote:
> > > > Package: wnpp
> > > > Severity: wishlist
> > > > Owner: Mohammed Sameer <debian@foolab.org>
> > > > 
> > > > * Package name    : funpidgin
> > > >   Version         : 2.4.1
> > > >   Upstream Author : A lot. Can't be listed here!
> > > > * URL             : http://funpidgin.sourceforge.net
> > > > * License         : GPL
> > > >   Programming Lang: C
> > > >   Description     : graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client based on pidgin
> > > > 
> > > > Funpidgin is a graphical, modular Instant Messaging client capable of using
> > > > AIM/ICQ, Yahoo!, MSN, IRC, Jabber, Napster, Zephyr, Gadu-Gadu, Bonjour,
> > > > Groupwise, Sametime, SILC, and SIMPLE all at once.
> > > > It has all the features offered by pidgin plus:
> > > > * "Entry area manual sizing" a plugin by that allows manual resizing of the entry area.
> > > > * An option to set the size of the buddy icons displayed in the chat window.
> > > > * An option to let the window manager place new windows.
> > > > * Two different ways of seeing that your buddies are typing.
> > > > * An optional send button for Tablet PC users.
> > > 
> > > Maybe you could wait to see whether this fork lasts, and adds some
> > > *substantial* features, before adding it?
> > > 
> > > Ben.
> > > 
> > 
> > my understanding is that this is a 'protest' fork made to add a feature
> > that the upstream did not want(the resizing). So as long as the upstream
> > resists, it should survive.
> 
> Could we, as the Debian distribution, not make the decision what variant
> we want to distribute? We can take the useful patches from funpidgin, if
> they are good, and add them to “our” pidgin. That might be the best for
> our users and in the spirit of free software, although it might be bad
> for our relationship with upstream pidgin.
> 
> In any case I suggest that the maintainers of pidgin and funpidgin try
> to work together to keep the packages in debian compatible as possible,
> e.g. when it comes to plugins and the like.

Let me clarify my POV a bit.
The resizing part is already implemented as a plugin. If the fork doesn't survive then
it can be "extracted" and shipped alone.

However, checking the list of improvements in their svn leads me to think that they already
started to implement a lot of changes.

The MSN protocol probably can be handled, pidgin and pidgin-experimental packages for
example (But it needs Robert McQueen, the current pidgin maintainer to agree).

My intention is to contact him and see if we can work together or at least reuse the
specific pidgin debian patches he wrote/maintain. Maybe even setup a team if he agrees.

But I'd say wait a bit and see what will happen, I guess the funpidgin developers will
be synching with pidgin but I don't know how it will happen.

point is, everything is easy as long as the plugins API is similar but if funpidgin drifts
then we can't share a lot.

At the moment, funpidgin can't be installed along with pidgin. I'm still waiting for the
new release to see what will happen (And they are planning to solve this ASAP).

Cheers,

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