On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:16:05PM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > I support that request. Not only is unstable quite outdated already > (bleeding edge?) it also becomes more and more a problem since the > kernel and Xorg aren't updated anymore in unstable. That means that > newer hardware (especially Laptops) don't fully work anymore (WLAN, > Graphic, Sound). The latest alsa source is in unstable. 'm-a a-i alsa' would install it. What new graphics cards are supported by xorg 7.4 that arean't already supported by unstable? the intel, ati, radio, nv drivers don't support any newer cards afaict. > > Since we're making it very hard for our users to get their new hardware > working seamlessly, unstable becomes more and more unattractive compared > to other distributions. Is attracting users with brand new hardware to use unstable a goal of ours? > > Some suggest to cherry pick packages from experimental, but first some > packages like the kernel aren't even available there The kernel is available elsewhere: http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/ > and second, since > experimental is not part of the unstable > testing > stable flow, it has > the aura of sandbox/playground/if-your-box-breaks-its-your-own-fault. > And officially we don't even recommend using unstable, aren't we? So for > me that argument is invalid. If we don't recommend using unstable, doesn't that make YOUR argument invalid? stew
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