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Re: DFSG violations in Lenny: Summarizing the choices

On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 10:24:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Neither does it (currently) contain an exception for debian.org
> > machines, or very popular Dell machines with Broadcom ethernet
> > firmware.  Great!  Cut them off!!  Let's see how quickly we can get
> > users moving to non-official kernels and installers when the official
> > ones don't work for them.  Then we can stop fighting about it.  The
> > DFSG hard liners can go on using the DFSG free kernels, and everyone
> > else can either move to another distribution or use an unofficially
> > forked kernel package and installer.
> Why not just support it in non-free exactly the way we do other things?

Because according to you, Debian isn't allowed to ship any non-free
bits, right?  I assume that includes in the installer CD-ROM itself.
And if you need non-free bits in order to download from the non-free
section of the archive, what do you do?  From what I understand, the
Lenny installer is currently includes the non-free archive, and
automatically enable the non-free section in order to allow those
users to win.  Is that considered OK by you?

If the proposal is to delay the release to make sure that **all** bits
are moved into the non-free section, what about the debian
installation CD itself?  If it is true that __Debian__ never includes
any DFSG bits, I would think that would have to include the installer
CD/DVD image itself, no?

						- Ted

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