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The manpages-es maintainer's e-mail bounces. Does anyone know how to
contact Rubén Porras Campo?

Colin Watson                                       [cjwatson@debian.org]

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Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 00:06:12 +0100
From: Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>
To: Ramón García <ramon.garcia.f@gmail.com>, 440358@bugs.debian.org
Cc: nahoo@inicia.es, control@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#440358: Subject: man-db: Wrong source encoding for Spanish man pages.
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reassign 440358 manpages-es
merge 395503 440358

On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 10:01:58PM +0200, Ramón García wrote:
> There are two posible solutions
> 1) Change encodings.c so that by default, it is UTF-8 for Spanish and
>    for other languages where man pages are currently being encoded in UTF-8.
> 2) Change the Spanish manpages, so that they are formatted in UTF-8
> (this solution would be done by the maintainers of the package
> manpages-es)

manpages-es is behaving incorrectly; this is already reported as bug
#395503, so I'm reassigning and merging.

Manual pages under /usr/share/man/es/ should be ISO-8859-1; there are
many pages in other packages with that encoding, so this cannot be
arbitrarily changed. When UTF-8 support is in place (as it should be as
of the next upstream release of man-db), it will be possible to install
UTF-8 manual pages under /usr/share/man/es.UTF-8/. That is my transition
plan, but it is *not in effect yet* and *will not work right now*.
Arbitrarily changing the encoding of the legacy directories from their
historical meaning is not a sensible transition plan.

> In my opinion, the best solution is 1), because the current trend is to
> make everything UTF-8. Whatever solution is decided, it should be arranged
> with the maintainers of translations to different languages.

The problem here is precisely that the change to UTF-8 wasn't
coordinated with the man-db maintainer (actually, I assume it was
accidental). If it had been, I could have advised that the transition
plan wasn't far enough along yet for this to be possible. When it is in
place, rest assured that I will communicate it very clearly to
translators and developers.

There's no need for the source files to be changed and thereby
inconvenience translators; it should be perfectly adequate to recode the
files with iconv as part of the package build process.

The manpages-es maintainer has not responded to previous mails on this
issue, so I hereby announce my intention to NMU shortly.


Colin Watson                                       [cjwatson@debian.org]

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