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Re: status of jackd? (bug #318098)

On 09/08/05, Erik Steffl <steffl@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>    mini rant: what's the point in breaking important packages in
> unstable for significant periods (e.g. the bug above was filed
> 2005/07/13)? Isn't experimental more appropriate for stuff like this?
> Same for udev (requiring linux kernel 2.6.12 which wasn't available for
> debian) etc. At least explanation and status update would help (the bug
> does have a vague ETA but no explanation). Unstable is pretty much the
> only debian version usable for desktop (in general, I guess somebody
I would _NEVER_ recommend someone install Debian Unstable as a
desktop...  Testing, yes, Stable even more so.
> could use stable for desktop) because desktop software (X, browsers, kde
> and gnome etc.) and HW support develops/changes too fast for stable to
> be able to keep up.
But the point of Stable, is that it is not effected by ABI Transitions
except between major releases.  Stable is as good for Desktops as it
is for servers.  If someone however dearly wants Stable with updated
hardware, it is possible to pin apt stable sources, yet allow
testing/unstable kernel/x/wm/* packages in.

The comment of yours could also be put in way that: your "HW support
changes too fast" will relate just as easy to networking, but if they
invent 100gbit/s network cards for mainstream release in 2 hours time,
the stable hardware support is out dated, (btw, purposely
far-fetched).  If the admin wishes to use that hardware, by all means
he/she can go and apt-get that kernel that supports it, if he/she
wishes...  My main point is, what your saying applies to 99% of users,
so in general are you saying Debian should just have a version called
"Unstable", ok it would mean quicker security updates, no freezes,
madhouse updates, mass package breakage during transitions... but
overall, that would be really great for a Desktop or a server right?

Sorry if any of the details are incorrect, but I do not like the idea
of Desktop computers running unstable, esp in the world of what seems
to be, mostly, Windows users.  Only exception, developers/maintainers
that work in those areas and have to test constantly, and are prepared
>         erik
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N Jones
Proud Debian & FOSS User
Debian Maintainer of: html2ps, ipkungfu, dvorak7min & windowlab

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