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Re: Release update: minor delay; no non-RC fixes; upgrade reports

On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 01:02:28PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 02:58:21AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Anyone who can't distinguish between an "officially announced release date"
> > and a projected target release date isn't worth wasting my breath on.
> It seems you underestimate the public effects of release management 
> announcements.
> Nearly none of your users read d-d-a.
> They read the media.
> E.g. in Germany the most popular online media for computer related news 
> is heise.de [1]. And their latest news regarding Debian was "Completion 
> of Debian sarge delayed again" [2].

... in an article that is full of factual errors.


"Mitte März gab es erst den dritten Release Candidate für Sarge;"[...]

That's not correct; we had the third release candidate for
debian-installer around that time. While the two are related, Sarge is a
lot more than just debian-installer.

If they can't even get such basic things right, I don't think it's fair
to say that there's a problem here which the RMs can do something about.

On the other hand, note that the release announcements do help in
getting us focused to do whatever is necessary to make the release
happen. Without those things, I for one would probably have tuned out a
while ago, because "nothing happened".

Now choose what's more important for you: having a developer focused on
fixing the release and actually making it happen, or having the mass
media not saying things that be bad for the image Debian has with some

The amount of time between slipping on the peel and landing on the
pavement is precisely one bananosecond

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