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Re: [RFC] OpenLDAP automatic upgrade

Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> writes:

> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
>> The patches for BDB 4.2.52 are freely available from Sleepycat.  They are
>> required to be in place if you want a stable BDB 4.2.52 distribution.  I
>> would be very surprised if the package maintainer hadn't already included
>> the patches in their build.  I also post links to the patches from my

> Yes, they are included. In fact, I would expect Debian BDB 4.2 to be much
> more stable than whatever is available from Sleepycat, as a rule of thumb.

Good good. :)

>> As for BDB 4.3:
>> You cannot use BDB 4.3 to load databases past a few million entries into
>> OpenLDAP.  The way BDB handles logs changed enormously between BDB 4.2 and
>> BDB 4.3, and its log management is not stable, often running out of
>> space.  In addition, numerous users have written the OpenLDAP list
>> complaining of issues they've hit using BDB 4.3 with OpenLDAP 2.2.  The
>> solution was for them to move back to BDB 4.2.52+patches.  This became

> I would expect that to cause trouble with just about everything that uses
> huge indexes and databases with BDB 4.3.   Or does it show up only in
> OpenLDAP usage patterns (OpenLDAP is known to find all lurking bugs in BDB
> that others never hit :-) ).

Well, I only use BDB with OpenLDAP, so I can't say one way or the other. ;)

>> In short, I cannot find a single reason to run OpenLDAP against BDB 4.3,
>> and even the current OpenLDAP release notes that BDB 4.2 is required.  I
>> can find many reasons to not use BDB 4.3.

> Not good.  That might mean a lot of trouble to get 4.3 out of sarge, and
> revert all packages back to 4.2 :(

Well, I'd say at least for OpenLDAP 2.2, it really needs to be done if a
Debian wants to release a stable OpenLDAP setup. ;)


Quanah Gibson-Mount
Principal Software Developer
ITSS/Shared Services
Stanford University
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