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Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!



On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 04:24:35PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@debian.org> writes:
> 
> > Practically, buildd admins can notice a longer-than-usual queue and throw
> > hardware at the problem, and that seems to work well enough, and we could
> > reduce the rate of package inflow through various means, but the problem
> > still remains -- the queue prioritisation *can* lead to starvation.  I'm not
> > advocating that it be on the top of anyone's todo list to fix it, because we
> > have relatively effective workarounds, but it's not healthy to say the
> > problem does not exist, either.
> 
> What are these "relatively effective workarounds"?

Not being a buildd admin, I have no idea as to the specifics, but I infer
the existence of these workarounds due to the fact that, on the whole, the
build queues don't appear to suffer from hideous starvation problems.

> I recall recently hearing that the buildd admins don't want extra
> machines.  So what then?

Presumably that was "we don't want extra buildds administered by random
people who we have no control over", a policy which has been discussed to
death before.  Nowhere have I seen a buildd admin say "we're happy not
having enough machines to keep up with demand".

- Matt

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