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Re: Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:23:52PM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> On 05/12/2004 James Foster wrote:
> > Pornography may be offensive to some. Is the package description for
> > hot-babe accurate? Are people who do not want it installed being
> > forced to install it?
> > 
> > People who may be offended by the package should read its description
> > and make up their own mind about whether or not they would like to
> > install it.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > There's no excuse for censorship, ever.
> so you would even accept nazi propaganda material in debian, just
> because you dislike censorship?

Hell yes. This said it best, I think:

  [...] freedom of expression constitutes one of the essential
  foundations of a democratic society and one of the basic conditions
  for its progress and each individual's self-fulfilment.

  [...] it is applicable not only to "information" or "ideas" that are
  favourably received or regarded as inoffensive or as a matter of
  indifference, but also to those that offend, shock or disturb. Such
  are the demands of pluralism, tolerance and broadmindedness, without
  which there is no "democratic society".

[Even if this 'democratic society' label is somewhat misnamed].

> in my eyes there shouldn't be any tolerance for intolerance, as you
> woun't get respect in return. rather your tolerance will be exploited.

Precisely. If we tolerate the intolerance of these people who are so
terrified of images of the naked female form, then they will continue
to exploit our tolerance.

  .''`.  ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield
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