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Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

On Thursday 02 Dec 2004 00:00, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

> > It seems to me this is the sensible solution. When we could not
> > export crypto from the US for legal reasons we created non-US. Now I
> > think it is as significant an issue to distribute items such as
> > hot-babe.
>  Cool, we legitimize Debian Pr0n.

I prefer to think of it is as the much heralded Debian Data archive. :-)

In all seriousness though, at least then it would be out in the open.

>  It is illegal in many countries to have images of living
>  things -- or pictures of women with their head uncovered. Pragmatism,
>  in this case, is the enemy of freedom.

Is it? Is it REALLY?

Pragmatism is about compromise. Not distributing this tool does not stop 
anyone downloading it, but it does stop users, developers and distributors 
getting into legal trouble. Not a bad compromise if you look at the limited 
utility of the package.

>  BTW, the DFSG is not very pragmatic, nor is the social
>  contract. We have drawn a line there, that's what defines us.

Not in this sphere we haven't. I see no lines at all on this subject.

> > We are not talking about something subjectively offensive but a real
> > legal problem.
>  As am I -- lots of legal problems in lots of domains.

How about we tackle them one at a time?

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