Re: confusion about autobuilders/whom to thank
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 03:29:58AM +0000, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:
> The xerces23 and xerces24 packages are mysteriously on not-for-us
> lists for some platforms. Specifically, xerces23 and xerces24 are
> both on mips's not-for-us, and xerces24 is also on those of mipsel and
> powerpc.
> http://www.buildd.net/buildd/mips_Not-For-Us.html
> http://www.buildd.net/buildd/mipsel_Not-For-Us.html
> http://www.buildd.net/buildd/powerpc_Not-For-Us.html
> However, the latest versions of xerces23 and xerces24 have both been
> built for mips and even have buildd logs showing the mips build. How
> is it that they got autobuilt even though they are on the Not-For-Us
> list for those platforms? Are the not-for-us lists I cited above
> actually used?
As you might have registered, there were some serious backlogs on some
archs, such as mips, mipsel and arm. There have been some efforts to reduce
that backlogs with additional buildds using a separate wanna-build database.
Your mentioned NFU list is only considered on the "official" buildds using
the "official" wanna-build database. But to get things done quickly we had
to use "unofficial" buildds and an "unofficial" wanna-build.
> Interestingly, there are no buildd logs for the latest versions of
> xerces23 or xerces25 for mipsel or powerpc though the packages have
> been built. xerces24 is still out of date on mipsel and powerpc.
> http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?pkg=xerces23
> http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?pkg=xerces24
> http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?pkg=xerces25
> Are buildd logs not getting updated? Did someone build the packages
> manually? If the packages were built manually (or otherwise), how can
> I find out who built and uploaded them? (I am not yet a DD, but in
> this case, I don't know how a DD would find this out either.
There have been people manually building packages as well, but I've seen
xerces being built either on paco, pepe, pancho or hokusai. Please check
www.buildd.net as well.
Regarding the logs... well, we're sending our logs to buildd.debian.org, of
course, but we have no control if they're filtered/deleted or not. You have
to ask the admin of buildd.debian.org, why they don't appear there. Well,
from time to time it may happen that a log get lost by accident in
mailrouting, but it's quite uncommon that this happens to all logs.
> Basically, the current situation, though an improvement over before,
> doesn't fit with my understanding of how things are. Any
> clarification or pointers would be useful.
Yes, the situation could be better, but, well, it is like it is...
Maybe all NFU packages should be retried from time to time?
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Ciao... //
Ingo \X/
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