Re: Proposed changes to the policy (Was: My suggestions)

[Victor Nazarov <vir@comtv.ru>]

Peter Novodvorsky wrote:

> Victor,
>
> Victor Nazarov <vir@comtv.ru> writes:
>
> -snip-
>  
>
> > The first is the naming scheme of the debian packages. Debian uses
> > names that consists of several parts separated with `-' charecter. I
> > can suggest to use / as a sepparator and to store apt database as a
> > directory tree.
> > The following files must be stored in the /var/lib/apt/packages for
> > instance:
> > ...
> > xfce4/core
> > xfce4/wm
> > ...
> > so to install smth administrator must point an apt utility to the file
> > under this directory. I think it's more comfortable to use such tree
> > rather then use apt-cache search apt-get install combination
> >    
>
> I see no advantage of proposed scheme over the current one. If you
> want completions for package names you can use zsh or bash with
> completions and dont mess with apt-cache search. If you want to do
> grep, you can do it by grepping Packages file or grep-dctrl.
>
>  
May be you are right, but I think packages require more organization anyway.

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> This suggestion looks like proposal of transition to another type of
> filesystem like reiserfs4. Implementing such features in userspace
> seem crazy.
>
>  
I'm totally agree with you but... Users need it... And It's partly 
implemented in Debian-Menu system and by Gnome project.

> > The next... Unix have a good file permisions managment system, but now
> > only root can manage the acces to files. But I think normal users must
> > have right to manage the access to files owned/created by them. The
> >    
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> This is also filesystem feature, not debian one. Modern filesystems
> have POSIX acl support in Linux[1] that should fulfil your requests.
>
> -snip-
>
> Peter.
>
>  
Acls is not what I want. I just want to permit normal users to create 
groups. I don't think this is a filesystem feature,  Unix filesystem and 
kernel provides per user permitions managment since the creation, the 
only barier is a minimalistic login tools with /etc/passwd, /etc/group 
files. My scheme is totally backward compatible, why not to implement it?

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vir