Matthew Palmer said: > On a machine 500 miles away for which you apparently have no other means > of > control? Very, very daring. Oooh, the test machine is 3 feet from my desk. I kick it everytime I get a snackie. I'm saying hypothetically. I dont' touch kernels unless I need a security update, or a hardware, kernel patch. Even for security patches I wait if it only has a few users. -- --Luke CS Sysadmin, Montana State University-Bozeman