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Re: Lost Trust

On Tue, 2004-06-01 at 07:01, Marek Habersack wrote:
> On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 11:32:02PM -0500, Joe Wreschnig scribbled:
> > On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 22:01, Marek Habersack wrote:
> > > I fully agree with you on that and you've given very worthy examples of
> > > applications that replace the non-free ones. But note one thing - NONE of
> > > their authors came moaning that "acrobat is bad, it has to be removed, guys,
> > > remove it" - but they sat down and wrote the software. And what I was
> > > talking about were people who go talking about something being wrong, about
> > > politics, theoritizing and pointing fingers but doing nothing in order to
> > > change anything. If somebody comes and says "the tg driver is bad, because
> > > it is non free and I will remove it" and offers no alternative then, in my
> > > book, that person loses _all_ the credibility as a software developer and
> > > a person that can be trusted to do some task which requires responsibility.
> > 
> > So, if no free alternative exists, any proprietary program (whether we
> > have a legal right to distribute or not) can be in Debian if someone
> > packages it. (Don't respond with "I'm not saying that", because you
> > are.)
> Am I? Where? Where am I saying that an illegal program should be
> distributed? AutoCAD was given as an example - the example didn't include
> discussion about the legal rights to distribute that. I assumed that, for
> the sake of discussion, the person had the right to distribute the
> hypothetical AutoCAD. So let me ammend my statement, just for you:

I was referring to the tg3 driver. Debian did not have any legal right
to distribute the firmware in it, yet you are saying it was
irresponsible to remove it.
Joe Wreschnig <piman@debian.org>

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