Bug#183860: marked as done (many files generated from texinfo have license conflicts)
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From: "Brian M. Carlson" <karlsson@hal-pc.org>
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Subject: general: many info files have license conflicts
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Package: general
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-03-05
Severity: serious
Tags: upstream
Justification: Policy 2.1
Most GNU manuals are under some form of the GNU Free Documentation
License (the freeness of which is debatable). However, those manuals are
in Texinfo format. The first line of every Texinfo file is:
\input texinfo
which includes texinfo.tex. If you look at texinfo.tex with
head -20 `dpkg -L texinfo | grep 'texinfo\.tex'
you will find that texinfo.tex is under the GNU General Public License,
which is incompatible with the GFDL. Hence the bug. This affects any
manual in Texinfo format that is under the GFDL or any other
GPL-incompatible license.
-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux stonewall 2.4.20-k7 #1 Tue Jan 14 00:29:06 EST 2003 i686
Locale: LANG=3Den_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=3Den_US.UTF-8
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Subject: Fwd: Bug#183860: RMS's comment on this bug is mostly irrelevant. :-/
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According to Russ Allbery, texinfo now has an explicit GPL exception
that definitely fixes this bug. The statement "[t]his has been our
intent since Texinfo was invented" makes it clear this grant applies
retroactively, so this bug is quite done.
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> Resent-From: Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>
> From: Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>
> Date: December 31, 2003 16:40:50 EST
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> Subject: Bug#183860: RMS's comment on this bug is mostly irrelevant.
> :-/
> Reply-To: Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>, 183860@bugs.debian.org
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> Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org> writes:
>
>> Why do those who claim there is a copyright problem have to prove a
>> negative? Shouldn't it be the responsibility of those who claim their
>> is no problem to show examples that undermine the claim that DVI
>> output
>> is a derivative work of texinfo.tex?
>
> It looks like the issue may now become irrelevant. Upstream texinfo
> just
> added the following:
>
> % As a special exception, when this file is read by TeX when
> processing
> % a Texinfo source document, you may use the result without
> % restriction. (This has been our intent since Texinfo was
> invented.)
>
> --
> Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu)
> <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
>
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