Re: A case study of a new user turned off debian

[viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk]

On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 02:22:00PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote:
>   Oh, not this crap again. Or perhaps you're contending that what is 
> usefull for you is usefull for everybody.
> 
>   Hint: there's more to "useful" than old version of software in early 
> stages of development. Lot of desktop oriented apps are changing fast 
> and older version are fairly poor (functionality, stability etc.) - open 
> office, mozilla (and other browsers), kde, gnome etc. Lot of new HW has 
> a better chance to be (better) supported on newer system (are new 
> kernels available for stable?)

man make-kpkg

Debian is *wonderful* for kernel development, but I wouldn't touch Herbert's
kernels with a ten-feet pole.  And yes, new kernels work fine on -stable:
$ grep '^deb ' /etc/apt/sources.list 
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody-proposed-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody-proposed-updates/non-US main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org woody/updates main contrib non-free
$ uname -a
Linux miles 2.4.23-pre8 #1 Fri Oct 24 02:08:34 EDT 2003 alpha unknown
$

- no need to put -testing on the firewall box.  The rest of Linux boxen
run -testing here...