On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 07:21:57PM +0100, stuart whittaker wrote: > refuses to start and the retry process fails also...??? > > > thanks for any advice. > > stuart > > stuart firstname.lastname@example.org This sounds like a user question and not a dev question. No? Usually x doesn't start because of problems with the server configuration. Have you looked at the X log (/var/log/XFree86*) ?