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Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 01:10:27PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> I do not believe that this patch has caused excessive grief for the
> benefits that it brings.  In fact, conflicts between the Debian kernel
> source and random kernel patches floating around are a fact of life.
> For example, the grsecurity patch has had a history of conflicts with
> various patches in the Debian kernel source.  Most of those patches that
> caused conflicts were in fact essential security fixes.  You can review
> this for yourself by visiting to the BTS entry for the grsecurity
> package.

That has more to do with the fact that grsecurity is an intrusive pile of
garbage, splashed pretty much all over the tree (which, incidentally, is
a large part of reasons why it is unfit for upstream kernel).

For crying out loud, it's a half-megabyte monolitic patch.  Even devfs
was slightly smaller when it had finally dripped into the tree.  If
somebody wants to play with it - they'll have to either
	a) split the damn thing into series of localized chunks and enjoy
relatively easy resolution of conflicts with other patches or
	b) wear "I'm a sadomasochist and proud of it" T-shirt and leave
everybody else alone.

Look, it's that simple - authors of patch had chosen to be antisocial and
kept it a monolit; that makes it a second-class citizen as far as merges
are concerned.  Less intrusive patches get precedence.  End of story.

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