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Re: Bug#212525: Package contains non-free GNU FDL material

Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 02:00:42 -0400, Nathanael Nerode <neroden@twcny.rr.com> said:

This package contains material licensed under the GNU FDL (the
manual) installed in usr/share/info/make.info*.gz.  Debian-legal has
determined that the GNU FDL is not a free software license, even
without Front Cover Texts, Back Cover Texts, or Invariant Sections.
While attempts are being made to get the FSF to modify it so that it
is, the FSF appears to be very slow and recalcitrant about making
any changes to the GNU FDL; it will likely be years before it is
changed.  Accordingly, in order to satisfy the Debian Social
Contract *now*, the manual should be removed from the package as
soon as is feasible.

	Debian legal, by itself, probably does not have the rights to
 make such a determination. Firstly, there has to be a formal
 determination to the effect, and needs be ratified by the larger
 developer body.
That is absolute nonsense. The shoe is on the other foot. Debian-legal has determined that it does not have the right to let in non-DFSG-free material, and that the GNU FDL is not DFSG-free. This is within its assigned duties.

Licenses are not "free until proven non-free" (as you seem to be claiming), and the GFDL has quite certainly been proven not to be a free software license. Even RMS agrees that it is not a free software license (he claims that documentation is not software). Debian's Social Contract states that "Debian will remain 100% Free Software". Not "Debian will remain Free Software plus some other stuff."

The larger developer body certainly has the right to let in such material if it chooses to amend or 'clarify' the Social Contract. If you want to do that, start the process of doing so. Nobody has.

	Don't bother reopening these reports, they shall be just as
 summarily closed.
I'm not going to start an open-close war right now, but you should know that you're quite, quite wrong.

Forwarding to debian-devel. No thanks to you for starting what is sure to be a flame war.

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