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Re: Bug#138541: ITP: debian-sanitize (was Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material)



>>"Jeff" == Jeff Licquia <licquia@debian.org> writes:


 Jeff> As an option, we could use some less absolute method of determining
 Jeff> offense, perhaps something like vrms.

	vrms is easier to implement, since licenses can be tested
 against DFSG fairly objectively. People taking offense depend on
 cultural and highly subjective individual criteria; and offense lies
 i the eyes of the beholder. 

 Jeff> Generating the list of offensive packages is, of course, the hard
 Jeff> part.  I propose we do this with the following process.  It has the
 Jeff> advantages of not (necessarily) promoting the biases of one developer
 Jeff> or group.

	You are assuming there is a common cultural background that
 shall determine what the broad community finds offensive.
 Unfortunately, with the spread of the internet, Debian is no longer a
 localized mostly european heritage distribution. We hae
 constituencies that find things offensive that you may hold dear, and
 vice versa. 

 Jeff>  - Offensiveness will be determined by vote.  All Debian developers
 Jeff>    will be allowed to vote on any or all binary packages in
 Jeff>    Debian.

	Ah, so the only things that are offensive are those that the
 majority find offensive. I find this notion patently offensive, and
 ridiculous. 

 Jeff>  - After the quorum is reached, a majority (supermajority?) of
 Jeff>    "offensive" votes will result in the package being labeled
 Jeff>    offensive.  Votes will be tallied on regular intervals, and
 Jeff>    packages generated from the vote results.  The interval will be
 Jeff>    designed to allow new versions of the package to propagate through
 Jeff>    Debian.


	Which jurisdiction do you live in? Seems to me, by labelling
 something offensive, you are opening yourself to libel or other
 suits, espescially if this is widely publicized. 

 Jeff>  - Only packages in main would be eligible for voting; contrib and
 Jeff>    non-free are, in a sense, already considered disreputable by their
 Jeff>    status outside of main.

 Jeff>  - This maintainer, at least, would refrain from participation in the
 Jeff>    process to avoid a conflict of interest.

 Jeff> I would probably implement this as a set of scripts and a database; at
 Jeff> upload time, the scripts would produce a package for my manual
 Jeff> approval, signature, and download.

 Jeff> Comments?

	You are free to do as you please, of course, but I would
 object to any GR that tries to implement this censorship by majority.

	manoj
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