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>debian-devel-digest Digest				Volume 102 : Issue 114

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>Today's Topics:
>  Re: State of xfstt                    [ elf@florence.buici.com ]
>  Re: WTF is with dhcp?                 [ "Eloy A. Paris" <eloy.paris@usa.net ]
>  Re: fun with libgal                   [ Jules Bean <jules@jellybean.co.uk> ]
>  Re: State of xfstt                    [ Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> ]
>  erroneous SM_UNMON request            [ "Thomas E. Vaughan" <tevaugha@tevau ]
>  Re: WTF is with dhcp?                 [ Jerome Petazzoni <skaya@enix.org> ]
>  Re: fun with libgal                   [ Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo <jsogo@debi ]
>  Re: fun with libgal                   [ Junichi Uekawa <dancer@netfort.gr.j ]
>  Re: balsa build help                  [ Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at ]
>  Re: Potato to Woody dist-upgrade pro  [ Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> ]
>  Re: fun with libgal                   [ Ryan Murray <rmurray@debian.org> ]
>  Re: Vanishing /usr/doc symlink        [ Santiago Vila <sanvila@unex.es> ]
>  Help! Can't build a kernel that moun  [ Adam C Powell IV <hazelsct@mit.edu> ]
>  Re: non-ASCII characters in /etc/loc  [ Glenn Maynard <g_deb@zewt.org> ]
>  Re: WTF is with dhcp?                 [ "Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists" <t ]
>  Re: WTF is with dhcp?                 [ Wichert Akkerman <wichert@wiggy.net ]
>  Re: Potato to Woody dist-upgrade pro  [ "Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists" <t ]
>  Re: Help! Can't build a kernel that   [ Scott Dier <dieman@ringworld.org> ]

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>Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:36:49 -0800
>From: elf@florence.buici.com
>To: "Tille, Andreas" <TilleA@rki.de>
>Cc: Debian Development liste <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: State of xfstt
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20020124083649.A16454@buici.com>
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>While I haven't verified it, I read that there is no need for xfstt
>since the functionality has been added to XFree86.

>On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 04:32:20PM +0100, Tille, Andreas wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> while browsing through the list of RC-bugs I stumbled over xfstt.
>> It has a real lot of bugs most of them very old.
>> 
>> While the one RC bug (#107193) seems to be easy to fix because
>> it is just a FHS packaging issue I wonder what to do with #82992.
>> It is quite old and could really be a problem.  Unfortunately
>> I'm really no a font expert and so it does not seem very reasonable
>> to fix just #107193 in NMU.
>> 
>> Moreover someone should test, whether the important bugs listed
>> for this package are somewhat related to #82992.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>>        Andreas.
>> 
>> --
>> RC-Bug of the week: 118793
>> 
>> 
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>Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:11:02 -0500
>From: "Eloy A. Paris" <eloy.paris@usa.net>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: WTF is with dhcp?
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20020124171101.GA17949@antenas.dyndns.org>
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>On Jan. 22, 2001 Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net> wrote:

>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=dhcp
>> 
>>  - an important bug that makes the package virtually unusable for
>> many (related to the run_dhcp setting which should probably move to
>> /etc/defaults/dhcp) which is around 1.3 years old and counting (w/
>> patch!)
>>  - 4 normal bugs > 3 years old
>>  - 7 normal bugs > 2 years old
>>  - 6 normal bugs > 1 years old
>>  - 11 recent normal bugs
>> 
>> Presumably many of these bugs are dupes. Does anyone know why such an 
>> important package is in such a bad state? Are there many others like
>> this?

>OK, I claim full responsibility for the state in which the ISC DHCP
>packages are.

>The main reason the packages are in such a poor state is that I
>personally lost interest in the ISC DHCP 2.x series a long time ago;
>I have been running the 3.x series since the very early stages of its
>development. Since then (December 27, 1999 according to my changelog) I
>have been running the experimental packages I have been putting together
>after each beta release of the 3.x series. The second (less important)
>reason is that I have been busy lately with work and other things
>(family, etc.)

>I also added debconf support to the experimental packages so specifying
>the interfaces dhrelay and dhcpd should listen to was easy. Several
>bugs in the BTS are related to this and since I had them fixed in the
>experimental packages I lost interest in fixing the 2.x packages in
>unstable (and testing.)

>Now, I would have liked to upload my experimental packages for the 3.x
>series a long time ago (October 5, 2001 that was when DHCP ISC 3.0 was
>released.) The problem is that the boot floppies are using the DHCP
>client from the 2.x series. The client in the 3.x series is too big
>to be handled now by the boot floppies so when I mentioned that I was
>ready to upload to unstable my 3.x packages I was told to wait: if the
>3.x packages had moved from unstable to testing and then to frozen that
>would have meant problems for the boot-floppies team.

>With this quick introduction is that I want to present my plan for fixing
>the current problems with the DHCP packages:

>I realize the DHCP 2.x packages in testing are important and I have
>decided to fix the problems now. I want to focus on fixing the current
>problems with the 2.x DHCP packages. Once the most important bugs are
>taken care of I will upload the 3.x packages to unstable, and file a
>RC bug against them so they can't move into testing. The reason is the
>requirement of the boot floppies to use the 2.x DHCP client.

>The most important bugs in the DHCP 2.x packages seem to be:

>- An infamous run_dhcp variable that lives in the /etc/init.d/dhcp init
>script. This variable must be set to 1 so dhcpd runs. Most people have
>complained that they have to repeat the process every time they upgrade,
>and have filed important bugs because of this.

>- Inability to specify what interfaces the dhcpd daemon should listen to.

>To solve these two I want to get rid of the run_dhcp variable altogether,
>and use /etc/default/dhcp to declare the interfaces dhcpd should
>listen to.

>I'll need testers for the new v2 packages so I'll announce here when I
>upload.

>I also want to get feedback on the following: the current DHCP 2.x
>packages support bith 2.0.x and 2.2.x kernels. It is done via a wrapper
>that runs different binaries (dhcpd-2.2.x or dhcpd-2.0.x) based on the
>running kernel. I think this is an ugly klutch and I would like to get
>rid of it. How many of you are still running 2.0.x kernels, or how many
>of you think I should cut this historical baggage?

>Finally, I wanted to ask if there's any interest in keeping the ISC
>DHCP v2 packages in the distribution, along the new v3 packages. I was
>thinking about renaming the v2 packages as dhcp2, dhcp-client2 and
>dhcp-relay2, and have the new v3 packages with the normal names (dhcp,
>dhcp-client, etc.)

>OK, this is it. An

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