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Re: [OT] lazy maintainers



On 08 Aug 2001 21:17:14 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 05:03:37AM -0500, Jared Johnson wrote:
> 
> > Despite the convenience of testing/unstable, the main goal of a
> > package maintainer is to actually make a good release of Debian
> > happen, not to make bleeding-edgers happy.
> 
> sorry, that's not true.
> 
> the main goal of a debian developer is to maintain their packages to
> the best of their ability. some also choose to work on other aspects
> of debian, such as the web site or translation efforts or release
> engineering or the boot-floppies...like everything else in debian, these
> are all *voluntary* activities.

http://www.debian.org/devel/constitution
"The Debian Project is an association of individuals who have made
common cause to create a free operating system"

Sure, everyone does different things.  These are all done toward the
cause to create a free operating system.  Sure, perhaps some maintainers
consider the free operating system to be debian/unstable or
debian/testing; I would not put it that the majority feels this way; at
least not the people that stear the project, or, say, name the
distributions "unstable" or "testing" and design the rest of the
infrastructure of debian.  The infrastructure assumes that unstable
exists primarily to develop, testing exists primarily to stabilize it,
and stable exists primarily to get it out there to the masses.

In any case, I can't figure whether people are complaining about this
particular package's problems affecting unstable or stable; however, in
any case it's affecting none of them.  Users of unstable can easily
acquire unofficial packages if they like.  I don't think there are alot
of developers who disagree with the idea that the Debian project
*develops* and *supports* the stable branch.  Regarding stable, for the
3rd time or so i'd like to iterate Robert McQueen's observation that the
"problems" with mozilla have not yet affected *any* stable release of
Debian.

> *some* debian developers think that the stable CD release of debian is
> the primary goal.
> 
> some other debian developers think it's just an interesting sideline.
> 
> still others think that it's basically irrelevant.
> 
> 
> the only time that this ever becomes any kind of a problem is when the
> first group tries to force their priorities onto the second and third
> groups.

Hrm, the above comment belonged down here huh... oh well, i'm too lazy
to move it down here so here's some filler :)

-- 
Jared Johnson
solomon@futureks.net

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