Re: [vulture@aoi.dyndns.org: Bug#100744: Binary should be in /usr/bin, since it's useful to non-admins.]
I'm new on this list, but it occurred to me that the 'mtr' (Matt's
Traceroute) package installs its binary into /usr/bin
So then, why the inconsistency between mtr and traceroute, if their purpose
is the same?
ilia.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Langasek" <vorlon@netexpress.net>
To: <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [vulture@aoi.dyndns.org: Bug#100744: Binary should be in
/usr/bin, since it's useful to non-admins.]
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>
> > Previously Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > Not stepping into the actual flamewar here, but 'mount' is already in
the
> > > default user path (/bin/mount), and therefore does not support the
argument
> > > that traceroute should remain in /usr/sbin.
>
> > mount is useful for the average newbie user since he can use it to
> > mount floppies, cdroms, etc. The average newbie user has no use
> > for traceroute at all, it is a diagnostic tool networks, not a general
> > user thing.
>
> Respectfully, the last time I checked it the word 'newbie' didn't appear
> anywhere within the text of the FHS. Looking in /usr/bin I can find lots
of
> tools which I don't think would be useful to newbies; at the same time, I
> expect a lot of veteran /users/ (not admins) would be annoyed to have
these
> tools disappear into the depths of /usr/sbin.
>
> You are correct that traceroute is a diagnostic network tool, but that
does
> not mean it's only useful to administrators of the /local/ system. I
usually
> find traceroute most useful for identifying remote network difficulties
that
> neither I nor any local sysadmin has control over. So as a user, the
> placement of traceroute in /usr/sbin does seem rather arbitrary to me.
>
> But I'm not going to get pulled into an argument of where traceroute
/should/
> be. It is where it is, and short of filing an RC bug (and making it
stick),
> there's nothing anyone else can do to make the maintainer move it if he
> doesn't want to.
>
> Steve Langasek
> postmodern programmer
>
>
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