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>debian-devel-digest Digest				Volume 101 : Issue 250

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>Today's Topics:
>  Re: Debian trademark [was: Debian GN  [ Marcus Brinkmann <Marcus.Brinkmann@ ]
>  Re: Debian trademark [was: Debian GN  [ Anders Arnholm <anders@arnholm.nu> ]
>  Re: "Author" section of manpages      [ Junichi Uekawa <dancer@netfort.gr.j ]
>  ITP: mta-dummy                        [ Adam McKenna <adam@debian.org> ]
>  Re: ITP: mta-dummy                    [ Peter Makholm <peter@makholm.net> ]
>  Re: ITP: mta-dummy                    [ Josip Rodin <joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr> ]
>  Re: ITP: mta-dummy                    [ Peter Makholm <peter@makholm.net> ]
>  Re: binutils in debian unstable is b  [ Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> ]
>  Re: Bug#122443: general: Zope fails   [ Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at ]
>  Re: fam upload                        [ Joerg Wendland <joergland@debian.or ]
>  Re: libglib1.2 falling behind libgtk  [ Christian Marillat <marillat.christ ]
>  Contacting bug submitters             [ Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> ]
>  Re: binutils in debian unstable is b  [ "Christopher C. Chimelis" <chris@de ]
>  Bug#122529: ITP: planner-el -- The E  [ OHASHI Akira <bg66@debian.org> ]
>  Re: Bug#122529: ITP: planner-el -- T  [ Roland Mas <lolando@debian.org> ]
>  lintian, strip --strip-unneeded, sec  [ Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> ]
>  Re: fam upload                        [ James Moss <moss@brutesquad.org> ]
>  Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded,  [ Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> ]
>  Re: Bug#122507: ITP: mta-dummy        [ "Steve M. Robbins" <steven.robbins@ ]
>  Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded,  [ Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> ]
>  Re: Bug#122507: ITP: mta-dummy        [ Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> ]
>  Re: Bug#122507: ITP: mta-dummy        [ Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> ]
>  Re: ogle stuck in incoming?           [ Andreas Metzler <ametzler@logic.uni ]


>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 10:42:35 +0100
>From: Marcus Brinkmann <Marcus.Brinkmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
>To: Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>,
>  Debian Devel List <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: Debian trademark [was: Debian GNU/w32, may ready to be started?]
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20011205104235.E396@ulysses.alg.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
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>On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 06:17:07PM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 10:47:24PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>> > I am referring to individual components of "main".  For example vim,
>> > some howtos (those really don't belong there, mental note to file a bug
>> > report),
>> No need. The issue has already been raised recently (see -legal), and
>> I'll be splitting out the non-free parts of doc-linux later this month.

>Thanks for taking it up.  I was aware of the discussion, but had no time to
>verify yet if it addresses the issue.  I grepped for the no-modifications-
>allowed clause in the Howtos, and found two, I think.



>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 10:46:33 +0100
>From: Anders Arnholm <anders@arnholm.nu>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Debian trademark [was: Debian GNU/w32, may ready to be started?]
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>On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 05:06:25PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
>> perhaps you misunderstood my question:


>> hint: a bunch of unrunable code, as there is nothing running, except
>> maybe the BIOS bit that is looking for a bootloader, or perhaps a very
>> unhappy bootloader that can find no kernel.

>The out the userland code, and how happy system does one get? As I
>actually could change kernel between /vmlinuz and /bsd and run the same
>userland code I could change between the useland code and use the same
>kernel (root=3D/dev/hda2). The kernel dosn't make up the system, as well
>as the userland code dosn't.

>/ Balp
>      o_   Anders Arnholm,               HiQ - Consultant
> o/  /\    anders@arnholm.nu             Phone  : +46-703-160969
>/|_, \\    http://anders.arnholm.nu/     http://www.hiq.se

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>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:37:51 +0900
>From: Junichi Uekawa <dancer@netfort.gr.jp>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: "Author" section of manpages
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>On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 04:34:27 +0200
>"Eray Ozkural (exa)" <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr> wrote:

>> I would file a wishlist bug for the above package, but if the credits are 
>> entirely misleading a "normal" severity might be suitable.

>I would say it is a "minor" bug.
>This severity exists for such things.

>Wishlist is for things which may never become real, due to design considerations.

>	junichi

>dancer@debian.org  http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer


>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 01:58:00 -0800
>From: Adam McKenna <adam@debian.org>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Cc: submit@bugs.debian.org
>Subject: ITP: mta-dummy
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>Package: wnpp
>Severity: wishlist

>I'd like to discuss the creation of an mta-dummy package.

>This package would have no files (except perhaps a small doc), and provide

>The purpose of this package would be for people who install their own MTA
>from source.  It is a royal pain in the ass installing an MTA from source in
>Debian, because lots of packages depend on mail-transport-agent.  This pretty
>much forces the user to keep a package that provides mail-transport-agent
>installed at all times.  Keeping another MTA installed on the system just to
>make the package management system happy is a waste of space and resources,
>and could cause other problems, such as security holes (if the user keeps the
>package on hold, preventing security updates from being installed),
>interference with the locally-installed MTA, etc..

>I made an mta-dummy package a couple years ago using the equivs package, and
>it has saved me many headaches, and I've given it to others who were having
>the same problem.

>If anyone can think of a serious reason that this shouldn't be in the archive
>(i.e., other than that you think it's silly, or the standard Packages file
>bloat argument), please speak up, otherwise I'll upload this in a week

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