Re: Debian GNU/w32, may ready to be started?
On Sun, 02 Dec 2001, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 11:39:34PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
> Has anyone considered that there may also be legal problems with calling
> this port 'Debian'? The Debian name is also a registered trademark,
> recognize the advantages of a dpkg-based system for cygwin, and think
> It may be appropriate to call for a GR to see whether Debian wants their
> name to be used on this port.
Well, if a full concensus is needed, I am already opposed to naming such a
beast 'Debian', and I _will_ vote so (and I speak as both SPI and a Debian
registered member, here), so don't bother.
One thing is to recognize that our users need non-free software for a few
things, and thus our infamous 'non-free' distro. A 'GNU/w32 Debian', on the
other hand... well, we do NOT need that POS non-free XP kernel 'by
Microsoft(TM)' for anything, and therefore I am opposed to naming it
On the other hand, adding a w32/cygwin architecture (or whatever the _dpkg_
guys want to call it) to dpkg is certainly NOT something anyone should
oppose. Heck, one friend of mine ported the thing to AIX...
> rationalization, and anyone who objects to the use of non-free software
> per se will not be swayed by your argument.
Exactly. They will tell you to stop wasting our time with the creation of
such a bloody nightmarish beast...
> > As a free software advocate, I'd prefer windows users to use our free
> > applications than all the crappy nonfree software that is present for
> > the windows platform.
No problem, there. But please do not name it "Debian". Call it "Dygwin" or
something like that ;-)
> the other? I don't believe we are; I believe that making it more
> convenient for people to go on paying Microsoft for their operating
> systems will only hurt us all in the long run.
Agreed. We need to shatter their monopoly utterly (so that they will stop
driving the market with their heavy-handed tactics and furthering the way of
the FUD and unethical business)... and that requires people not giving them
money. "Dygwin" ( ;-P ) is detrimental to that. I would not begrudge w32
people dpkg for that reason alone, but I think letting them get the Debian
name would be way too much.
"One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot