Re: PROPOSED: new package: xinit

[Junichi Uekawa <dancer@netfort.gr.jp>]

Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> immo vero scripsit

>   What about upgrades?  Initial installs probably aren't a problem, but
> people upgrading without metapackages will get xbase-clients and not xinit!
> (thus preventing them from starting X at all, at least using the common
>  methods)

I don't think people will get xbase-clients in the current situation.

In my experience of upgrading several systems, upgrading from potato shall see 
most of X-related packages being removed, notably, "startx" goes missing.

If we kept "task-x-window-system-core" package, that might have helped us
upgrade (i am not sure), but we don't have such thing to keep our packages 
together, it seems.


If you have any doubt, try:

# pbuilder create --distribution potato --basetgz ~/base-potato.tgz
# pbuilder login --basetgz ~/base-potato.tgz

and install X, and upgrade to woody from there... (if you have the bandwidth etc.)

Upgrading from potato with base and build-essential and task-x-window-system-core installed:

For woody:
bin/bash-2.03# apt-get dist-upgrade -s |more
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  console-tools task-x-window-system-core xbase-clients xfonts-100dpi
  xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  cpp-2.95 g++-2.95 gcc-2.95 ifupdown ipchains klogd libcap1 libdb3 libdps1
  libfreetype6 libpcap0 libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 libxaw6 libxaw7 net-tools
  netkit-inetd netkit-ping perl perl-modules xlibs 
The following packages have been kept back
  base-config console-data xserver-common xserver-svga 
83 packages upgraded, 20 newly installed, 7 to remove and 4 not upgraded.


For sid:
bin/bash-2.03# apt-get dist-upgrade -s |more
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  console-tools task-x-window-system-core xbase-clients xfonts-100dpi
  xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  cpp-2.95 g++-2.95 gcc-2.95 ifupdown ipchains klogd libcap1 libdb3 libdps1
  libfreetype6 libpcap0 libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 libxaw6 libxaw7 net-tools
  netkit-inetd netkit-ping perl perl-modules xlibs 
The following packages have been kept back
  base-config console-data pcmcia-cs xserver-common xserver-svga 


regards,
	junichi

-- 
dancer@debian.org  http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer