Is it (a) always, (b) sometimes or (c) never a bug for a source package to contain, not the unpacked source, but another tarball, which must be unpacked before one can do anything useful with the source? shadow-20000902 is one example of such a package; I've run into others in the past. What is the point of this sort of arrangement? It seems strange, given that there is already a mechanism for separating the debian patches from the upstream source. ttfn/rjk