I wonder if there's some quick way to remove PAM totally from a woody box. (services work in traditional ways, not using PAM) I'm asking this for a system that doesn't need such security measures. Thanks, -- Eray (exa) Ozkural Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara e-mail: erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo