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Re: Debian 2.2 Release.



On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 10:43:31PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
> > If upstream says true that app is stable, 99% bugs can be detected
> > by lintian, apt-get install newapp, try it once, apt-get remove newapp.
> 
> Let's look at all open release critical bugs, shall we? I've categorized
> them as detectable by your simple testing methods above, or not. If I
> had any uncertianty, I assumed your test would get them. I even assumed
> your test really means install it and test it on all architectures
> debian supports.
> 
> Bug number	Simple test?	Description
> #64371		no		Hardware-specific problem.
> #64500		yes		Install problem on ppc
> #65515		yes		Problem passibg parameters to modules.
> #65988		yes		Symlink problem breaks install.
> #66284		yes		PCMCIA support loaded twice.
> #65800		yes		Architecture-dependant coding error.
> #65644		yes		Library incompatability.
> #65052		no		Copyright problem.
> #65051		no		Lacks libc6 dependancy.
> #65454		no		Doesn't work with emacs20 version mismatch
> #65208		no		Incompatability with new emacs
> #66267		yes		Compile problem on ppc
> #66172		no		Causes emacs to not load some modules
> #66215		yes		Doesn't start window manager
> #65962		no		Locks some hardware
> #65967		no		Incompatability with X on some systems
> #62173		no		Copyright problem.
> #66114		no		Security hole.
> #65857		no		Session management problem.
> #58367		no		Locks box sometimes
> #54271		maybe		Dependancy problem.
> #62363		no		One driver has a problem under heavy load.
> #66222		no		Doesn't stop properly on reboot.
> #64414		yes		Library incompatability.
> #66290		yes		Not executable.
> #66142		no		Breaks minicom, efax.
> #64762		maybe		Dependancy problem.
> #65961		no		License problems.
> #66086		yes		Doesn't work with gnuchess.
> #66216		yes		Doesn't work on alpha.
> #66137		no		Fails to install in some circumstances.
> #65834		no		Hardware-specific issue.
> #66225		yes		Doesn't work after some upgrades.
> #51747		no		Doesn't handle expired passwords.
> #64424		no		Wrong path for xauth on ppc.

> So your simplistic tests would catch, optimistically, 13 RC bugs, or 37%
> (not the "99% bugs" you asserted with no evidence), while 20 RC bugs, or
> 57%, would not be caught.

I was talking about 99% bugs
{
  caused by upgrade
  if ustream claims package is stable
  and he is right.
}

3 of above are licensing - we can diff old nad new license before
installing.
#65051 (lack of dependency) can be found by improved test.
(think real: app 1.5 depends on libc, app 1.6 doesn't ???)

Most of the rest are about problem with upstream version,
not with Debian.

I stiil claim most of Integration problems are easy to find.



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