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Re: Clarifications

Stephen Frost writes:

I have not had the time to read all the posts and probably everything
has been said many, many times. And repeated even more times. Maybe I
shouldn't post at all.

I've used Debian GNU/Linux since 1.2 and I am an active member of
Finnish Linux community. Debian is used by may employer, an important
Finnish organisation and many of my friends because of my
recommandation. I'm not a Debian developer because up to now I have
had nothing to package.

> sarcastic, and your claim that it is 'no more than miscellany' is false.

I agree. Non-free is quite important for many users - for example for
me. For example some graphic formats are patented in US where almost
anything can be patented but this is not so in many (most?) European

I feel that GNU/Linux is very much about a possibility to choose. If
non-free is removed Debian project limits it's users choice. It
doesn't hurt anybody to have non-free on ftp-sites but removing it
would make things more complicated. I guess everybody has heard what
KISS means?

> 	Or people will write installers for the non-free software, GPL them,

And all that time could be used to make useful free software.

> 	Perhaps we should attempt to educate our users instead of attempting
> to make their decisions for them.

What people seem to forget that there will always be non-free software 
which cannot be replaced by free software. Always.

> > non-free, as it is not a part of the Debian system.  And you fail to
> > recognize that getting non-free software elsewhere is trivially.

It may be trivial for you and me but it certainly isn't trivial for
Joe Luser.

> each package has to have someone maintaining it I would hazard a guess
> that at least a hundred people use non-free. 

Thank you for making me laugh among this insanity.

> Non-free is not part of
> Offical Debian.  Our developers and users use some parts of it, however,
> and so they use a designated area for their work.  To tell our
> developers that they are no longer permitted to use this space is going
> to aggrevate them and may cause them to leave Debian as a whole.  I do
> not believe the 'advantages' such that they are out-weight losing even
> one of our greatest assets and what Debian was *built* with, our
> developers.

If non-free is removed I honestly hope that Debian forks. That would
be a pity.

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