Re: Feaping Creature-ism in core Debian Packages
>>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
Dale> Well, first of all, source builds _are_ crucial to package installation.
Dale> Without the ability to build source, you have no package to install.
You are not providing the context. On my machines, 99.9% of
the packages installed have not been compiled from source by me, and
despite the fact that I can't build most from source (I have no
helper packages installed), I still have the ability to install
You are possibly talking about a bootstrap new port build
system? That is so special cased!
Dale> Having a subset of perl in the base system is part of the cause for perls
Dale> apparent "instability". The fact that you can pre-depend on
Dale> this limited
One does not need to predepend at all. Perl-base is Essential.
Dale> perl, and use perl in the package build, opens the door to the
Dale> use of non-supported-by-base-perl instructions in the package
Dale> build. Because the maintainer is a perl buff, and has all the
Dale> perl extensions and libraries installed, he never notices the
Dale> slight "creep" away from the designated features of the tool
I still think that is OK. I use all kinds of tools i my build,
and I don't see why I have to make the build process harder to cater
to a one time bootstrap issue (since you have not provided the
context, I'm guessing wildly).
Dale> I don't object to perl, any more than I object to any other
Dale> package. I just think that we are being way to relaxed in our
Dale> treatment of the complex interconnectedness we are creating
Dale> with these indeterminate source dependencies.
I think the priority is quality and features the .deb package,
and bootstrapping porting autobuild systems comes as a far
"We've got everyone convinced except the people who have to make the
decision." name withheld by request
Manoj Srivastava <email@example.com> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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