Re: Working for Debian is not just about packages
On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 11:34:37AM +0900, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> cas> use it for 5 minutes, and all of the above will be self-evident.
> i use it occasionally (and info-mode in emacs frequently) and i don't
> share your opinion.
> if you are going to claim these things:
> -abysmal user interface
> -clumsy to use
> -never does what you expect
> -search facility is next to useless
> i think you should be willing to say specifically how.
like i said, use it and all these will be self-evident.
you are at liberty to disagree, i don't give a damn.
i have better things to do with my time than document and/or explain the
shortcomings of a program i do not and will not use, especially when
there are alternative programs which do the job and which don't suck.
> > (if you've already become familiar with info then try running it
> > while expecting it to behave similarly to almost every other text
> > viewer/browser type program - e.g. lynx and less)
> this sounds similar to:
> try using vi while expecting emacs-like bindings or behavior
> try using emacs while expecting vi-like bindings or behavior
> is that what you meant?
no, it means exactly what it says it means - that it does not work
similarly to standard tools. i sincerely hope that the significance
of this does not escape you entirely, as i would hate to think i was
completely wasting my time by writing to you.
you are at liberty to not care that info(1) is non-standard and violates
the principle of least surprise wherever possible. again, i don't give a
> > > are there specific ways in which it could be improved that you can
> > > suggest?
> > ditch it and use pinfo instead.
> since you did not give a specific method of improving the info
> program, i presume you mean that you think there are no ways in which
> it could be improved.
> > really. /usr/bin/info is a waste of time.
> i do not share your opinion on this matter. (this is not to say that
> i don't think pinfo is nice -- now that i've been introduced to pinfo,
> i like it as well).
again, you are at liberty to hold whatever opinions you like. i still
don't give a damn.
> but it is clear that you do not like the info program, and do not
> appear to have any interest in having it improved, so i am probably
> wasting my breath :-)
this should have been obvious right from my very first posting about
my message said "info sucks, here are some decent alternatives". From
this, it should have been obvious that i am not at all interested in
> let's not discuss this any more, as it is does not appear to be a
> constructive discussion.
finally, you get the message.