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Re: Menu

Quoting Chris Waters <xtifr@dsp.net>:

> Joey Hess <joey@kitenet.net> writes:
> > Fabien Ninoles wrote:
> > > KDrill (Kana/Kanji Drill program) is one of them, as well as an
> Arithmetic
> > > Quizz and some Neuronal Network program, etc... A section in the menu
> is
> > > welcomed as well :)
> > The section in the menu is Apps/Educational (not verified with Joost yet,
> > but that's where I've been planning to put them).
> There is and has been an Apps/Educational section in menu (at least in
> my menu) which contains (on my system) something called "Arithmetic
> Quiz".
> ~ $ grep Educational /usr/lib/menu/*
> /usr/lib/menu/bsdgames:?package(bsdgames):needs="text"
> section="Apps/Educational" \
> So, either this is already acceptable, or someone needs to file a bug
> against bsdgames.  Come to think of it, that's your package, isn't it, JH?
> Oh, and I guess this means that Fabien's "Arithmetic Quiz" will have
> to be named something else in the menu system.  I don't think an extra
> 'z' will provide sufficient distinction.  :-)

Hoops! My error. I'm talking about this program, whose part from 
bsdgames. bsdgames have no bug fill against him but three Lintian
warnings. Quoting the Lintian page:

-- Source package: bsdgames (2.7-2)
--   W: bsdgames: menu-item-creates-new-section Apps/Educational
-- /usr/lib/menu/bsdgames:2
--   W: bsdgames: menu-item-creates-new-section Games/Simulation
-- /usr/lib/menu/bsdgames:26
--   W: bsdgames: menu-item-creates-new-section Games/Simulation
-- /usr/lib/menu/bsdgames:5

> I talked to Joost about some re-org of the menus, and he was
> reasonably amenable, but doesn't want to be in charge of making the
> decisions, since he doesn't actually use the menu system himself,
> apparently.  So, I'm going to bring some of my ideas up on -policy one
> of these days, after I have a bit more time to review any earlier
> discussions that may have occurred.  I'd like to see:
> 1)  Top level entry:  Help  (things like Debian Help, tkinfo, xman,
>     etc.)
> 2) Apps/Mail
> 3) Apps/Browser  (for file and www browsers)
> and maybe
> 4) Apps/News
> at the least.
> -- 
> Chris Waters   xtifr@dsp.net | I have a truly elegant proof of the
>       or    xtifr@debian.org | above, but it is too long to fit into
> http://www.dsp.net/xtifr     | this .signature file.

I would like also to see something done for menu systems like gnome (I know
other one exist too) who included some default around the Debian Apps
menu. This is not really consistent I think and should often be kept
in examples instead. May be we need for this.

I don't really dislike this kind of menu, however. In fact, it should
be cool if user can configure their menu, easily add the Debian Apps
entry and still profit from root's update-menu call.
menu has enough possibilities to be doing so and maybe the user 
configuration can be determined with a ~/.menurc file read by 
update-menu when run as root. [Correctly su-ed, for sure].

Again, just my 2 pennies and sorry for my English.

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