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Re: Volume on -devel

> Branden Robinson <branden@ecn.purdue.edu> wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 17, 1999 at 01:40:10PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> > > The results: of 1596 postings, 1158 were from developers, 438 were not.
> > > 
> > > These are the top posters amoung non-developers:
> > > 
> > >      40 no: Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca>
> > 
> > This guy's in my killfile anyway.  He's either a troll or a moron, either
> > way he should go back to being an anonymous coward on slashdot.
> Er, um.  Okay, I publically apologize FWIW.  I'll shut up or even
> unsubscribe.  FWIW, I sent in a developer application a while ago but
> obviously I'm not up to that.

Dear Navindra,

Please don't take one individual developer's rants seriously.  I don't
know whether or not you have the technical capability to be a
developer, although I assume you do, otherwise you wouldn't even
consider applying.  I don't recall specifically having read your
posts, especially as I rarely follow full threads on -devel, and even
more rarely pay much attention to who has written them (unless it's
someone such as Ian Jackson or Wichert Akkerman), so I can't really
give comments on the appropriateness or otherwise of your posts.

But it's worth knowing a few things:
 - Sadly, developers do flame each other.  Part of the Internet
   culture, and it needs bearing.  I've been flamed more than once for
   innocent mistakes.
 - As a developer, besides helping to develop Debian, you, too, will
   develop.  I've been a developer since the day of the planned slink
   freeze a few months ago, and I've learnt some interesting C idioms,
   lots of Perl, some basic X-Windows programming, *lots* about the
   way Debian works, both technically and personally, lots about
   computer security (I knew nothing about /tmp races before I began)
   and so on.  It's a real two-way process.
 - And finally, the new-developer team are overworked volunteers who
   are also trying to maintain their own packages.  So if you haven't
   heard from them within a month or so, it's worth sending a polite
   reminder.  And again the following month, etc.  But in the
   meantime, start working on packaging something.  You could always
   email -mentors to say "I'm not yet a developer, but I've just
   packaged X with the intention to upload it if and when I am
   accepted; it's available from <URI>, and I'd love it if someone
   could check it out."  And you could tell new-maintainers the same
   thing ;-)

Looking forward to having you on our team!



  Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, QMW, Univ. of London. J.D.Gilbey@qmw.ac.uk
             Debian GNU/Linux Developer.  jdg@debian.org
       -*- Finger jdg@master.debian.org for my PGP public key. -*-

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