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<joey@finlandia.Infodrom.North.DE>, Robert Woodcock <rcw@debian.org>
Subject: Re: Release notes for slink
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From: Bob Hilliard <hilliard@flinet.com>
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ualberta.ca> writes:
> On 15 Jan 1999, Bob Hilliard wrote:
>
> > We still need autoup.sh and cd_autoup.sh, and will for the
> > foreseeable future, because many old systems are still in use as
> > production systems. Less than two months ago I had an inquiry about
> > upgrading a rex system.
>
> bo APT can upgrade a rex system with no problems, I don't know about buzz.
>
> Jason
I didn't mean to imply that apt was unable to peform the
upgrades, but rather that we must retain the capbility to make the
upgrades.
In November, I proposed making apt the only upgrade path
included on the slink CD. Three of the four respondents agreed with
this, but Martin Schulze said, "This is a fine alternative for systems
where apt-get works."
I was surprised to hear that there were systems on which apt
wouldn't work, so I asked you if this was true. You replied:
> Yes. Systems that have deliberately unconfigured or otherwise
> dysfunctional package states cannot use apt. Nobody has presented me
> with a technique for making APT safe on such systems so they remain
> unsupported. All others can use APT.
Based on this, I decided to leave both methods in the slink
uprade instructions. Perhaps this should be reconsidered for future
releases.
I believe it would be reasonable to expect users to fix "systems
that have deliberately unconfigured or otherwise dysfunctional package
states" before upgrading. If there is a consensus that it would be
reaaonable, the autoup upgrade could be abandoned for potato.
A buzz system has version 1.3.x of dpkg, which doesn't understand
epochs. autoup requires upgrading dpkg to 1.4 or higher. The
autoup.sh page on the website includes dpkg_1.4.0.8.deb (or used to),
and so does the /upgrade directory on the CD. I expect apt would be
able to upgrade a buzz system, if dpkg was upgraded first. I don't
believe I ever tested apt-get from buzz, although I did test autoup
against buzz. I recently destroyed my last buzz partition, so I
couldn't test apt-get on buzz now.
Bob
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