Re: Bug#22942: Advice for release critical bug (WAS: Bug#22942: libpaper depends on libpaperg)
Hi,
I think I'm failing to follow something basic here. Does paperconf
depend on the libc6 shared libraries? If so, there is no way one
could use the binaries without loading libpaperg, right?
Secondly, Hamm is supoposed to be libc6.
>>"Marco" == Marco Pistore <pistore@DI.Unipi.IT> writes:
Marco> The problem is that libpaper does not provide just the
Marco> library, but also a pair of executables (paperconf and
Marco> paperconfig). A package that depends on libpaper can use both
Marco> the library and the executables.
libpaper contains this, or libpaperg?
Marco> When i had to provide both the libc5 and the libc6 version of the
Marco> package, i decided to put the binaries only in the libc6 (i.e.,
Marco> libpaperg). The libc5 package (libpaper) should however depend on the
Marco> libc6 package, to assure that the packages depending on libpaper can use
Marco> the executables.[1]
Which library do the executable depend on? I think this is
about time we reduced continuing support for libc5 in Hamm,
especially when a libc6 replacement is available.
Marco> The possible solutions are:
Marco> SOLUTION 1 (Suggested by Wichert)
Marco> ---------------------------------
Marco> Create the packages:
Marco> libpaper - the old libc5 library. May suggest libpaper-bin.
Marco> libpaperg - the new libc6 library. May suggest libpaper-bin.
Marco> libpaper-bin - the binaries&manpages. Depend on libpaperg
Marco> Here the problems are that we do not guarantee, by installing libpaper,
Marco> that the executables are present in the system. OTOH, by making
Marco> libpaper depend on libpaper-bin, the installation of libpaper would also
Marco> force the installation of libpaperg, which is what we wanted to avoid.
Why do we want to avoid this? Hamm is libc6 all the way. I
think asking people to have libc6 libraries is reasonable (I would be
considering ways to get rid of the libc5 libraries, really).
What packages depend on libpaper and not on libpaperg? Why are
they in Hamm?
Marco> SOLUTION 2
I fail to see the need for libpaper.
Marco> SOLUTION 3
Marco> ----------
Marco> Well, we can also decide that to leave the situation as it is. In this
Marco> way, however, users would not be able to install the new version of the
Marco> library without also installing libpaperg (and libc6...)
The objection, for hamm, seems ridiculous to me. I mean, is
libc6 not a release goal for Hamm? We are strenuously trying to save
people from a release goal? What am I missing?
BTW, I think Solution 3 is not really a solution.
I think we should just get rid of libpaper. On my machine, no
package actually depends on libpaper anyway; they all depend
on libpaperg. libpaperg should just replace and conflict with
libpaper, and no libpaper be provided in Hamm.
What am I missing?
manoj
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