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Re: Copyright from the lcs-projekt!? [dwarf@polaris.net: Re: First cut at testing and validation]



> lcs-libctest will remain under the restrictive copyright. As I said, I
> intend to make another release of the test code that lcs-libtest uses,
> within a different set of driver code. This will be a distinct and
> isolated product from the LSB validation code, and, as such, can be
> released under a different license.
> 
> As I have said, it is not my intent to restrict useful code from
> development as Free Software. The intent is only to clearly identify the
> standard in a way that can not change without the standard committee's
> authorization.
> 
> > > > Code like:
> > > >    michael@titanic:~ > cat /usr/bin/which
> > > >    #!/bin/bash
> > > >    unalias -a
> > > >    unset -- "$@" &> /dev/null
> > > >    enable -n -- "$@" &> /dev/null
> > > >    type -p "$@"
> > > > must DFSG-free too! 
> > > > 
> > > > Or not?
> > > 
> > > It may certainly have a copyright by its author. DFSG free is only a
> > > requirement of Debian, not the world. Many other distributions would/could
> > > use this code, even with a fairly restrictive license, not that such a
> > > license would have much value.
> > 
> > This is right. But if the Software (and it is Software) is not DFSG free. it
> > can't go to main or contrib. And the result is: no 'normal' debian user can 
> > check the system!
> 
> While what you say about the software not going into main is correct, and
> expected, the rest is nonsense.
> 
> Debian is not the only access our users have to the world at large. This
> software will be eminently available even if Debian refuses to recognize
> its existance. Only Debian suffers from being this narrow minded.
>  
> > Make the copyright DFSG free, make yourself the debian package and all our 
> > users can check the conform of the system!
> 
> And anyone else can modify the package and re-release it (with the
> restrictions that are allowed this may be as another package name, but
> that doesn't change the fact that it is "derived" in this case from the
> "standard", which is very undesirable.)
I fail to see why it is undesirable. If someone modifies the code, and
releases it under a different name, then it is no longer "the standard".
What is your problem with this? 
 
> 
> You have ceased to be reasonable here. Debian is not the world. It isn't
> even a large part of it. Debian can not restrict users of Debian software
> from running proprietary code. THAT would go against the DFSG for sure!
> 
> You are acting like the whole system will be irevocably dammaged by this
> code being non-free, which is simply not true.
> 
> > 
> > Please.
> > 
> Thank you, but no.
> 
> Dwarf
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