Well, he's not wrong about Windows. Its applications are excellent, and it's more operating system than most people need. That has zero relevance to what we are doing with Linux, though. The intent was never to replace the operating systems of naive users. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP Bruce@Pixar.com 510-215-3502 Finger bruce@master.Debian.org for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3