Someone told me they were working on a libtiff package a while back, but I can't recall who. It's the only thing holding up the removal of the gimp's dependency on libgr. If whoever was planning it doesn't have time for it right now, I'll volunteer to take it over (even if just temporarily). It's a little awkward now since you can't, for example, install the latest xfig and gimp together because libjpeg and libgr conflict. Thanks -- Rob