Package: sudo Version: 1.4.2-1 deimos:~:[47]# ls -l =sudo =visudo ---s--x--x 1 root root 37996 Apr 17 07:44 /usr/bin/sudo ---x--x--x 1 root root 21900 Apr 17 07:44 /usr/sbin/visudo Is there a compelling reason not to give these files mode 4755 and 755 (respectively) as the packaging guidelines suggest? -- Robert Leslie rob@mars.org