Bill, Can you report on whether or not this bug still exists in kernel-1.2.12 ? I consider this a kernel problem. Thanks Bruce Perens -- -- Attention Ham Radio Operators: For information on "Linux for Hams", read -- the World Wide Web page http://www.hams.com/perens/LinuxForHams, or send -- an e-mail message containing the word "help" to info@hams.com .