Fw: Packaging games from Parallel Realities in GNU/Linux distributions
Hi,
Here's a summary (more at games@lists.freedesktop.org archives):
- clarified that all game data _made by_ Parallel Realities is GPL'd
despite the notice on their website
- confirmed that all their sounds and musics (not made by PR) have
unknown origin and should be considered non-Free
- some graphics are not free either: all StarFighter graphics, and
maybe some Blob and Conquer textures
=> A few immediate conclusions:
- graphics from StarFighter are non-free, and people didn't volunteer
to replace them (nor the sounds) since last year, so the package
need to be RM'd
- Blob Wars DFSG currently does not have non-free data unlike what I
first though
- Blob and Conquer textures need to be clarified, maybe Guus has an
idea of which may be non-free?
=> A few questions:
- Is somebody maintaining Virus Killer? If yes, sounds and musics
need to be stripped. If not, maybe we can RM it too.
- Guus, did you ever consider joining the Games Team? :)
Cheers!
--
Sylvain
----- Forwarded message from Sylvain Beucler <beuc@beuc.net> -----
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:58:58 +0200
From: Sylvain Beucler <beuc@beuc.net>
To: Stephen Sweeney <stephen.j.sweeney@googlemail.com>
Cc: guus@debian.org, games@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: Packaging games from Parallel Realities in GNU/Linux distributions
Great! Thanks for these precisions.
We'll point fellow packagers to this conversation if they have a
doubt. You might want to add it too at
http://www.parallelrealities.co.uk/about/
in case they look there first :)
--
Sylvain
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:59:35AM +0100, Stephen Sweeney wrote:
> Yep; everything we made ourselves is under the GPL.
>
> Steve
>
> 2009/9/11 Sylvain Beucler <beuc@beuc.net>
>
> > Hello and thanks for your fast answer,
> >
> >
> > For the sake of clarity, can we assume that the other data, made by
> > you, are released under the GNU GPL?
> >
> >
> > (To answer your question, some data such as musics may be illegal to
> > merely copy/distribute, that's why we can't include them in
> > distributions.)
> >
> > --
> > Sylvain
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:16:23AM +0100, Stephen Sweeney wrote:
> > > Hmmmm, this could become a game of picking and choosing, but here's how
> > > things stack up (non-Free)
> > >
> > > Starfighter - Music, sound effects, graphics
> > > Metal Blob Solid - Music and sound effects
> > > Blob And Conquer - Music, sound effects and likely some of the textures
> > > Virus Killer - Music and sound effects
> > > Legend of Edgar - Music and sound effects
> > >
> > > When I was originally approached about packaging the games for Linux
> > > distributions, I pointed out that many of the resources were non-Free,
> > but I
> > > was told that this didn't matter, since the resources could just be
> > packaged
> > > separately. I guess that wasn't really how it worked out.
> > >
> > > Replacing the resources is certainly an option, but could be very time
> > > consuming. However, if people are willing to give it a go, then there is
> > no
> > > harm.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps,
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > 2009/9/10 Sylvain Beucler <beuc@beuc.net>
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I'm part of the FreeDesktop Games group and the Debian Games Team.
> > > >
> > > > First, thanks for working on the great Parallel Realities games :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There was some recent debate on the license used on the games data.
> > > >
> > > > From what we could gather, most of the sounds and musics were picked
> > > > from the Internet and so may not be freely distributable - but several
> > > > people are interested in providing replacements for the sounds, as
> > > > well as in packaging versions without sound meanwhile, this is being
> > > > fixed already.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So we are wondering about all the other data, that Parallel Realities
> > > > crafted: the game levels, the texts, the 3D models, the textures, the
> > > > cutscenes, etc. Are they released under the GNU GPL, like the game
> > > > engine?
> > > >
> > > > There is a note on the website stating that data is non-free, and
> > > > we're unsure whether this applies to these data too. Could you
> > > > clarify? Perhaps we can work on a list of files, or we can use
> > > > categories of works like "everything except the musics and sounds".
> > > >
> > > > Ideally, we'd like you to mention it in the source releases and on the
> > > > website. Alternatively, mentioning it in this discussion while
> > > > keeping the mailing list in Cc: would help too.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, our question concerns Blob Wars, Blob and Conquer,
> > > > StarFigher, Virus Killer, but also The Legend of Edgar, which is
> > > > newer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All the best with your games and books :)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sylvain
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Honour of the Knights
> > > http://www.battleforthesolarsystem.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> The Honour of the Knights
> http://www.battleforthesolarsystem.com
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