Re: Adding new game packages to Lenny
* Sylvain Beucler <beuc@beuc.net> [2008-12-30 08:40:10 CET]:
> > They will not, and a good thing also.
> >
> > The risks associated with this are way too large.
>
> Hmm, what kind of risk?
>
> I'm not suggesting to upgrade GCC, but to add independent packages
> without reverse deps :)
Even those can affect the overall stability of the system, have
side-effects on unrelated packages that aren't properly checked (needed
Conflicts, filename clashes, maintainer script woes), I think you are
having a bit of a blind-fold approach here ...
> > Also, that's what a freeze is for: not allowing new stuff.
>
> Well, in Fedora you can retro-add packages to the last 2 releases
> pretty easily, so it can't be this bad ;)
Please don't apply other distribution's doings to Debian, they have
completely different approaches, like for a start to a security point of
view of not doing just the bugfix but pulling in the new versions
regularly, breaking interfaces along that path. You can't compare such
things, Debian has a policy (and that's a good thing, most of the
times).
> > ...but once Lenny releases, there is always the backports project[0],
> > which is almost as good as getting it in to the main release :)
>
> Yes, I plan to do this :) The problem is the "once Lenny releases"
> part, since until then, backports is frozen too in this regard.
.. or rather not opened for lenny-backports yet. etch-backports isn't
frozen, but it still applies the same rules of accepting versions from
lenny, which is propably what you mean.
> The fact Synaptic doesn't have an easy way to install backports makes
> it pretty much unusable for normal (i.e. non-command-line-savvy,
> i.e. our target) users too :/
That might be the case now but I'm still confident that this will
change over time when backports finally became an official ressource.
> Yeah, maybe it's a bit late - though in this regard I have a question:
> in the last debian-devel-announce you read:
>
> "unblock requests sent after d-i RC2 will only be considered if they
> fix RC bugs, and nothing else."
>
> Well, I thought this was the case since Jul 27 :( Do we have a "light
> freeze" and "real/deep freeze"? It's gonna help me for next time.
Adding new packages was the case since Jul 27th. It's just that
important bug fixes (and in some cases normal ones too) were able to get
unblocked too. From the release of d-i RC2 on it will be limited to RC
bug fixes. That has no change or effect on new packages at all.
So long,
Rhonda
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