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I'm sure some will find this announcement of the "Debian Linux
Release" interesting...

  Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development
  From: imurdock@shell.portal.com (Ian A Murdock)
  Subject: New release under development; suggestions requested
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  Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 13:05:37 GMT
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  Fellow Linuxers,

  This is just to announce the imminent completion of a brand-new Linux release,
  which I'm calling the Debian Linux Release.  This is a release that I have put
  together basically from scratch; in other words, I didn't simply make some
  changes to SLS and call it a new release.  I was inspired to put together this
  release after running SLS and generally being dissatisfied with much of it,
  and after much altering of SLS I decided that it would be easier to start
  from scratch.  The base system is now virtually complete (though I'm still
  looking around to make sure that I grabbed the most recent sources for
  everything), and I'd like to get some feedback before I add the "fancy" stuff.

  Please note that this release is not yet completed and may not be for several
  more weeks; however, I thought I'd post now to perhaps draw a few people out
  of the woodwork.  Specifically, I'm looking for:

          1) someone who will eventually be willing to allow me to upload the
                  release to their anonymous ftp-site.  Please contact me.
                  Be warned that it will be rather large :)

          2) comments, suggestions, advice, etc. from the Linux community.  This
                  is your chance to suggest specific packages, series, or
                  anything you'd like to see part of the final release.

  Don't assume that because a package is in SLS that it will necessarily be
  included in the Debian release!  Things like ls and cat are a given, but if
  there's anything that's in SLS that you couldn't live without please let me
  know!

  I'd also like suggestions for specific features for the release.  For example,
  a friend of mine here suggested that undesired packages should be selected
  BEFORE the installation procedure begins so the installer doesn't have to
  babysit the installation.  Suggestions along that line are also welcomed.

  What will make this release better than SLS?  This:

          1) Debian will be sleeker and slimmer.  No more multiple binaries and
                  manpages.
          2) Debian will contain the most up-to-date of everything.  The system
                  will be easy to keep up-to-date with a 'upgrading' script in
                  the base system which will allow complete integration of
                  upgrade packages.
          3) Debian will contain a installation procedure that doesn't need to
                  be babysat; simply install the basedisk, copy the distribution
                  disks to the harddrive, answer some question about what
                  packages you want or don't want installed, and let the machine
                  install the release while you do more interesting things.
          4) Debian will contain a system setup procedure that will attempt to
                  setup and configure everything from fstab to Xconfig.
          5) Debian will contain a menu system that WORKS... menu-driven
                  package installation and upgrading utility, menu-driven
                  system setup, menu-driven help system, and menu-driven
                  system administration.
          6) Debian will make Linux easier for users who don't have access to the
                  Internet.  Currently, users are stuck with whatever comes with
                  SLS.  Non-Internet users will have the option of receiving
                  periodic upgrade packages to apply to their system.  They will
                  also have the option of selecting from a huge library of
                  additional packages that will not be included in the base
                  system.  This library will contain packages like the S3
                  X-server, nethack and Seyon; basically packages that you and I
                  can ftp but non-netters cannot access.
          7) Debian will be extensively documented (more than just a few
                  READMEs).
          8) As I put together Debian, I am keeping a meticulous record of
                  where I got everything.  This will allow the end-user to
                  not only know where to get the source, but whether or not
                  the most recent version is a part of Debian.  This record
                  will help to keep the Debian release as up-to-date as possible. 
          9) Lots more, but I'll detail later...

  Anyway, I'll provide more specifics in a week or so after I receive enough
  replies.

  Please, all replies by mail.  I'll post a followup.  If you wish to discuss
  this in the newsgroup, please don't turn it into a flamewar. :)

  Until later,

  Ian
  --
  Ian Murdock                             Internet: imurdock@shell.portal.com
  The Linux Warehouse

  Please mail me for more information on the status of the Debian Linux Release.

-- 
Martin Michlmayr
leader@debian.org

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