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Re: Bug#224742 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#224742: Related to this issue...)



On Sun, Dec 28, 2003 at 10:13:21AM +0000, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au>
> > > Why *should* it me the maintainer's domain to squelch deviant thought
> > > in this way?
> > Who's stopping Enrico or you from thinking "deviant" thoughts?
> You're stopping Enrico from voicing deviant thoughts then you threaten
> to cut him off from the BTS unless he starts pretending not to think
> them.

Really? He seems to still be able to post to -devel, and also seems to
be able to add information to that bug report. The only thing he can't
do is use the control interface, since he's demonstrated that he can't
use it responsibly.

> > Who's stopping you from filing requests in the first place?
> You're stopping people from filing request when you say on this list
> that filing requests that you do not like constitutes "attacks" and
> "abuse".

It's funny, you know, but I'm pretty sure I said the exact opposite of that.
Why yes, I did:

] Message-ID: <[🔎] 20031227015627.GA31627@azure.humbug.org.au>
]
] Filing a bug isn't an attack. Repeatedly reopening a bug is.

> > And it's also the maintainer's place to ensure that the BTS listings
> > for his/her packages are kept in order.
> Sure. But the BTS listings are not kept in order if they falsely claim
> that nobody has a problem with the configuration file format.

Uh, so do you also think that by not having an open bug report saying
"#231123: The Earth is round", my bug page is falsely claiming that
the Earth is flat? The BTS is not a forum for everyone to list every
complaint they've ever had with a package; it's a forum to help organise
improvements to the package.

> Especially, it is not "in order" for the BTS listings to falsely claim
> that once somebody had a problem with it, but the thing was settled
> and they don't have a problem anymore.

Nor is the BTS a user support forum. Plenty of people have problems
with commands like "ls" and "dd", but we have no need to keep open bug
reports explaining how those commands are better to have installed by
default than, say, "dir" and "copy".

> > I'm sorry you don't think I explained things well enough -- at the
> > point where I'm told "   do-foo yes" is crazy and stupid compared to "
> > do-foo", and the person I'm talking to starts playing moronic games with
> > control@b.d.o,
> Whay you call "morononic games" is simply the reasonable refusal to go
> on record as agreeing with you, by someone who in fact doesn't.

Huh? No one's stopping him from saying:

	"I still think it'd be better to remove these restrictions."

Why do you imagine someone is?

Cheers,
aj

-- 
Anthony Towns <aj@humbug.org.au> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/>
I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred.

               Linux.conf.au 2004 -- Because we can.
           http://conf.linux.org.au/ -- Jan 12-17, 2004

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