Re: How to get rid of non-free packers?
At Mon, 26 Aug 2002 00:23:30 -0700,
Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 09:33:40AM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote:
> > At Fri, 23 Aug 2002 16:01:15 +0300,
> > Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote:
> > > It's free to distribute on the network, but if you distribute for
> > > the people who cannot access the network (by magazine or CD-ROM),
> > > please send E-Mail (Inter-Net address) to the author before the
> > > distribution. That's well where this software is appeared.
> > > If you cannot do, you must send me the E-Mail later.
> > >
> > > Original Source Code License Statement:
> > >
> > > /* Copyright (C) MCMLXXXIX Yooichi.Tagawa */
> > > /* Modified Nobutaka Watazaki */
> > > /* Thanks to H.Yoshizaki. (MS-DOS LHarc) */
> > >
> > > ---- Clip here ----
>
> Masanori, I do not know where you got this but this is memo by Tsugio.
>
> Manual page seems to me the thorough license from the original authors.
> Please consider the following for copyright section. Many restrictions
> for commercial use of modified code.
Thank you for your indication and translation!
I've added the below statement.
> Boy, this license did not make much sense even in Japanese. It get
> worse with my English. (Maybe this was so bad Masanori may have skipped
> translating this one.)
>
> Here "commercial" may be interpreted as "for-fee". "Added value" seems
> to mean "feature enhancement".
Your translation is great. Original statement has only weak argument...
The insufficiency of this license statement is similar to early
Japanese "freeware" licenses. I agree with your terms. Thanks.
> > > I think, only way to get free unpacking software for LHA-files is to
> > > negotiate with those Japanese persons. Here are some URL of Japanese
> > > LHA-software:
> > >
> > > http://shibuya.cool.ne.jp/lha/
> >
> > I think it can be replaceable with below Tsugio's source.
> >
> > > http://www2m.biglobe.ne.jp/~dolphin/lha/lha.htm
> >
> > Debian package uses his (Tsugio's) source. It also can handle -lh7-
> > format. I already contacted with him, but his response were too slow
> > (waited over 4 months, or more!), and he thought changing license was
> > very difficult. LHa for unix was hacked by many people at least over
> > 13 years, they have treated their license as "vague". Historical
> > reason makes difficult to change their license.
>
> It looks like Arai-san jca02266@nifty.ns.jp seems to be most active.
> http://ns103.net/~arai is his URL
>
> He has new autoconf version.
>
> It looks to me people are treating almost like public domain as long as
> New sources are available to general public.
It's worth considering to include/replace with his patch.
It includes some more features. My little concern is he does not
state any copyright issues clearly. I try to contact to him.
Regards,
-- gotom
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